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Posted on September 17, 2005 at 22:45:23.

In Reply to: |Sidus| posted by RN

Re: Sidus

By ***c_s-e_d

The above explanation comes from one etymological dictionary (chambers, 1897) - I have another which I will cross-reference with.

It also mentions here con-templ-ation as cognate with these. As with all etymology I'm sure it could be disputed, but often it is the surprising coincidences in etymology that are more interesting than tracing the 'roots'.
Also, it's always slightly disappointing to be told that a word 'originates' in Latin though, it's like an etymologist's blood group O.

Yes, this templum is an interesting complex. But you obviously have more knowledge of its ramifications than we do. Obviously the links between astrology and measurement/geometry are found in egypt and borrowed from there to greece. But what exactly is involved in this 'marking out' of a templum 'by the stars' in the practice of augury?

Incidentally when I bought this etymological dictionary I found in it a scrap of paper with the address of the 'College of Psychic Science Ltd' in London SW7 :)


: Your remark is very interesting. Could you check the origin of desire with a word encyclopedia (not a dictionary) or a work concerning such etymologies? Personally, I came across it during my researches on ancient Persian culture and studying Pahlavanic language (Pahlavi) of ancient Persia (during Sasanian); Pahlavi unilike Indo-European languages has vowelless alphabet so it shares a mysterious origin with Hebrew; it's a composition of ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Farsi and Hebrew (I should add, I have not succeeded to tame this beast yet; it's so difficult, creepy and rich) ... in one of those books, I suddenly ran into an endnote explaining the origin of the word desire (sidus-based background of the word) very brilliantly. I don't remember where that endnote was.

: It seems as you suggested about Consider and its sidus part, both have a common origin in the horizon of 'templum' (your intelligent suggestion) – templum more loyal to capacity than space -- which returns to Ptolemiac examinations (The Almagest and all the later examinations to this book) on uni-verse and mainly, a Pythagorean metronic philosophy bound to Greek Cosmogony. A very complex economy of pseudo-fluxes triggered and (re)animated by metron ('specially marked out for' which you suggested). Metron is actually the dynamic grund of Sidus. I've a somehow boring essay on all the above subjects, Pestis Solidus.

: We can suck a good discussion out of what you just mentioned.

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